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		<title>New Web Site Continues the story</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story continues at the new official Riley Jordan site at:<br />
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		<title>Riley Jordan &#8211; It&#8217;s all rock and roll to me &#8211; Part 25</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a dream gig for me.  The material was really simple, the family handled all of the gig bookings and administration and I was just a hired hand.  Little did I know that I had ended up in a hotbed of the Christian right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armed with a new reserve of enthusiasm as having come so close to a recording deal, I set about hustling for band members.  I put the word out and I also put an ad in The Age newspaper.</p>
<p>While all this was going on I decided to join a cover band, any cover band with work in order to generate a few dollars.  Around about this time, line dancing was making a big impact on the scene and bands were catering to this country infused pop music trend.</p>
<p>I ended up joining this strange little line dancing cover band made up entirely of one family. Mom, dad and a brother and a sister made up the drums, guitar, keyboards and vocals and now they needed a bass player.  Female bass players who could sing (lead and harmonies) were a big bonus in those days and so I got the gig.  They were working regularly and had bookings way into the future.</p>
<p>This was a dream gig for me.  The material was really simple, the family handled all of the gig bookings and administration and I was just a hired hand.  Little did I know that I had ended up in a hotbed of the Christian right.</p>
<p>This made rehearsals is a little bit precarious for me.  We would get through our work and then inevitably I would have to duck some kind of lecture or right-wing tirade.  I wasn&#8217;t pro or con anything I just wanted to do the gig and go home.</p>
<p>I was still young enough  to be drawn into these fencing matches and didn&#8217;t know how to defend myself against the father who was obviously very strict with his family and somehow thought that I was a part of his brood by default.  I really felt for their son who was the singer in a band. He seemed to bear the brunt of his father&#8217;s rants which bordered on the abusive in a very passive aggressive way.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, the father didn&#8217;t scream and shout, he was a very likeable man but that didn&#8217;t stop him from being relentless and manipulative.</p>
<p>I have nothing against Christianity, but in this case it was being used by the father in a less than Christian way.  Some people will hide behind anything to justify being a tyrant.  I was beginning to believe that the previous bass player had probably escaped the band rather than left the band.</p>
<p>They had another quirk which was quite interesting.  They had played as a band for so long that if they made a mistake, they all seemed to make the mistake together.  Let me give you an example but first some explanation to set it up.</p>
<p>We were playing at 12 bar pattern.  This means 12 bars of music with four beats in each bar played in a particular chordal pattern.   The pattern that I was playing on the bass guitar was a standard 12 bar riff, much like the bass riff under the song Route 66.  There is no way that I can lose a beat while playing this as the riff has four notes and each bar has four notes.</p>
<p>So we are playing along and we get to last bar of the cycle and  I&#8217;m playing the riff and the whole family, as one, drop the fourth beat and go straight to the first beat of the next cycle.  The mother, who was playing guitar next to me, turns to me in mid song and says &#8221; Try to keep up darling&#8221;.</p>
<p>Normally I would have a good laugh, but it creeped me out.  I realised that I really was being drawn into the vortex of this family&#8217;s  world.</p>
<p>Needless to say I didn&#8217;t stick around for too long.  There is a sad footnote to this story,  a couple of years later I came across someone who knew the family and apparently the sun had committed suicide.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I was starting to audition some great players for my new original band.</p>
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		<title>Riley Jordan &#8211; It&#8217;s all rock and roll to me &#8211; Part 24</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was December 1983, just hours before Christmas day, when I got the call.   The A&#038;R guy from EMI was on the end of the line.  Apparently the weather in Sydney was great and I informed him that Melbourne weather was up and down, hot one day cold the next, but that's Melbourne.... Finally we got around to brass tacks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was December 1983, just hours before Christmas day, when I got the call.   The A&amp;R guy from EMI was on the end of the line.  Apparently the weather in Sydney was great and I informed him that Melbourne weather was up and down, hot one day cold the next, but that&#8217;s Melbourne&#8230;. Finally we got around to brass tacks.</p>
<p>Firstly, he was really into what I was doing (all good so far but I had an impending feeling of doom) BUT (oh ooh not the dread <strong>BUT</strong>) he could get some people really excited about what I was doing and other people around EMI were not so much.  He was really sorry but he could do nothing for me at the moment.</p>
<p>It would not have been so bad but for the fact that it was just before Christmas.  Merry Christmas to me.</p>
<p>After collapsing into a deep funk for a couple of weeks, I picked myself up, had a good strong cup of tea, and looked to the future.  I was still pretty resilient at this time and rest of the Christmas break gave me a chance to think about the next step.</p>
<p>All of these experiences were giving me valuable feedback and guessed that I must be doing something right but perhaps another approach would be better.</p>
<p>Australia has always had a huge live scene and playing live music was so integral to being an artist that I decided that it was time to have my own band playing my original music.  I also came to the conclusion that the management side was too much work and that an artist shouldn&#8217;t be trying to manage.  That is what managers did.</p>
<p>It was time to step out on the limb a little further.  I needed a band and I needed management ASAP.</p>
<p>Rally the troops, man that the battleships and hoist the sails, it was time to take charge.</p>
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		<title>Riley Jordan &#8211; It&#8217;s all rock and roll to me &#8211; Part 23</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The big day arrives and I'm as nervous as a mouse in a pit of vipers.  How on earth are you supposed to put on mascara in states like this?  The phone rings --bugger!!!  So now I'm running down the hall to catch the phone (pre cordless and mobile phone days) while wiping mascara off my cheek.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big day arrives and I&#8217;m as nervous as a mouse in a pit of vipers.  How on earth are you supposed to put on mascara in states like this?  The phone rings &#8211;bugger!!!  So now I&#8217;m running down the hall to catch the phone (pre cordless and mobile phone days) while wiping mascara off my cheek.</p>
<p>It was the A&amp;R guy from EMI.  He&#8217;s having a crisis in his life, he is on the verge of splitting up with his wife and he is in a bad way.  He can&#8217;t  risk leaving the situation to get on a plane to come down to Melbourne tonight.  So instead he is sending a woman from the Melbourne office to check out my gig.  He&#8217;s really apologetic, over and over.</p>
<p>NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I think, but I say &#8211; oh that&#8217;s okay, I hope it all works out with your wife.  I put the phone down, all is not lost, maybe she&#8217;ll like it, maybe it&#8217;s all okay.</p>
<p>The soundcheck goes smoothly, everybody is really vibey and we&#8217;re all set to go.  Half an hour to show time and I duck  back stage to change into my schmick home-made pop diva jacket.</p>
<p>Back out front, I&#8217;m mingling with friends and the woman from EMI comes up and introduces herself.  I got a really bad feeling there and then.  I wasn&#8217;t being psychic, I could see that she was into something totally different to me,  just by the way she dressed.  She struck me as having an inner-city kind of grunge mentality and that was so far from where I was at the time.  If this was going to come off, it would be a miracle.</p>
<p>We played really well.  About halfway through, four drunken skinheads started playing up.  It was pretty noticeable and I can&#8217;t remember what I said from the stage but I got them to calm down and back off.  Later people told me that I handled the situation really well but it was just a fluke, it could have gone either way.</p>
<p>What a day this was turning out to be.  The rest of the set went off without a hitch and the crowd responded really well.  Offstage, it was such a relief that it was all over.   I could finally wind down and we all had a laugh as we went off to Fitzroy Street for pizza.   In my mind, I was starting to second guess everything; especially the jacket.  If only I&#8217;d have&#8230;&#8230;  If only I&#8217;d have&#8230;&#8230;..  If only I&#8217;d have&#8230;..</p>
<p>The only thing for me in now, was once again, to wait and see what the outcome would be.</p>
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		<title>How to get gigs &#8211; Tips for new original bands.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You've got your original band happening and after months of rehearsal you reckon it's time to get gigging, but where to get a gig?  There are venues on the circuit which book established acts and then there is the rest.  With most original venues getting tonnes of people approaching them every week to play, how do you get started?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got your original band happening and after months of rehearsal you reckon it&#8217;s time to get gigging, but where to get a gig?  There are venues on the circuit which book established acts and then there is the rest.  With most original venues getting tonnes of people approaching them every week to play, how do you get started?</p>
<p>Here are some tips for beginners:</p>
<ul>
<li>Find out which venues suit your style of music</li>
<li>Pick 2 or 3 and hang out there &#8211; get to know the people there &#8211; punters and staff.</li>
<li>Is there an open mic night where they can see what you do?</li>
<li>Figure out what&#8217;s in it for the venue &#8211; how many people can you bring?</li>
</ul>
<p>This last point is the most important.  The truth is you can probably get a gig at any venue if you can fill it.</p>
<p>There are a number of strategies to get a bit of a following:</p>
<p>1.  Play at open mic nights regularly gathering punters on your email list until you reckon they will turn up if you get a gig there.</p>
<p>2.  Play at peoples parties, BBQs and anywhere you can get attention.  (Note: It&#8217;s important to judge the value of what you do.  If you can play at a party with a PA and get attention that&#8217;s great.  If you end up in the corner with an acoustic and you can&#8217;t get over the ambient noise, then it&#8217;s best not to waste your time)</p>
<p>3. Give demo&#8217;s to people that you meet and have your web site address on them.  This can be just in passing.  If you can get them on your mailing list, all the better. It takes time for people to get to know original music, they are more likely to come to a gig if they are familiar with some of your songs.  (Note : Try to keep it cool, too much enthusiasm can be harassing.)</p>
<p>When you&#8217;ve figured out the venue that suits your style and you&#8217;ve hung out there a bit and you have either played at the open mic night or you reckon you can bring a few people down then it&#8217;s time to approach the management, after all, you have probably met them while you&#8217;ve been hanging out.</p>
<h4>Look at it from the venues point of view:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Remember, if no one comes to see you they still have to pay their bills/wages.  There has got to be something in it for them.</li>
<li>Keep your volume venue appropriate.</li>
<li>Get posters to the venue in plenty of time.</li>
<li>Do you have your public liability and other insurances in place?</li>
<li>Do you have an ABN, invoice book etc&#8230; ready.</li>
<li>Do you have someone to man the door if it&#8217;s a door deal.</li>
</ul>
<h4>Things to watch out for when considering a venue:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Are they serious about entertainment or are they just mining acts for their mailing lists &#8211; they have to put in too.</li>
<li>Do they supply PA and/or sound engineer or do you?</li>
<li>Are they booking  amateur acts and no one much goes there?  If your still getting your act together then this is a possible option.  If you think you&#8217;re ready to impress maybe give these a miss.  Better to do a gig  in a vibey atmosphere than a gig to next to no-one.</li>
<li>Is there some kind of stage area with lighting?  There is nothing worse than being on the floor next to the bain marie under florescent lighting &#8211; no matter how good you are it will always rob you of your magic.</li>
<li>Do they actively promote their venue or are they relying on acts to bring punters as their sole marketing strategy?  Once again, if your wanting to get some match practice this is OK but it&#8217;s hard to build a following if the venue doesn&#8217;t actively work with acts for mutual promotion.</li>
<li>Do they put up the posters you give them and do they do their own poster with a roster of all the acts for the week/month?</li>
<li>Are they on the map when it comes to your style of music?  Yes?  Great, now make sure your can bring people if you get the gig.  If you build a following in one area, it doesn&#8217;t follow that they will come to a gig in another area.  You will probably need to build followings in multiple areas.</li>
</ul>
<p>This is based on Australian venues but I guess the principles are similar everywhere.  It&#8217;s not common here but I&#8217;ve heard of some venues/festivals charging people to play.  This may be viable if the venue is packed with your target punters.  As always, read all contracts, get professional advice and communicate clearly with all involved for a good experience all round.</p>
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		<title>Riley Jordan &#8211; It&#8217;s all rock and roll to me &#8211; Part 22</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The A&#038;R guy from EMI was coming to see 'my band' in early December.  It's was now October and I had no band.  Battle stations - code red.  I needed one set of songs, about 20 minutes, for a show case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The A&amp;R guy from EMI was coming to see &#8216;my band&#8217; in early December.  It&#8217;s was now October and I had no band.  Battle stations &#8211; code red.  I needed one set of songs, about 20 minutes, for a show case.</p>
<p>To Do List:</p>
<ul>
<li>Find a backing band</li>
<li>Find a venue at short notice, preferably a venue on &#8216;the gig circuit&#8217;</li>
<li>Get my outfit together</li>
</ul>
<p>Firstly the band.   One of my friends brother was in a band called Bounty.  I had been out to see them play a couple of times.  They were good players and thank God they agreed to do it.  I also roped &#8216;Keyboard Man&#8217; into the gig as we were becoming good friends by this stage.  I also needed a couple of backing singers so Nightingale came to the rescue as did a friend of hers who was good with harmonies.  A couple of rehearsals &#8211; no worries &#8211; under control.</p>
<p>Finding a venue was a hairy challenge.  I remember getting all dressed up and rocking down to the Prince of Wales in St Kilda to have a word with the manager.  I can&#8217;t remember why I chose this venue but it was certainly on the map in the music scene then and it&#8217;s even bigger now.  In those days is was a grungy old place with carpet stickier than fly paper mixed with velcro.  The manager and his secretary were surprisingly helpful.</p>
<p>The secretary checked the booking schedule, they had a band booked, on the date that I wanted, but they said I could do my set before band.  YES!</p>
<p>As I walked out the manager said to me &#8216;You&#8217;re a touch of Hollywood&#8217;.  I said &#8216;What does that mean&#8217;.  He said &#8216;You look like a movie star&#8217;.  OK.  All good so far.</p>
<p>So what to wear.  At the time Madonna was just starting to hit the scene in a big way.  I had it in my head that I would put together something funky and street so I got this jacket and ripped fabric into strips and put bows all over it.  It&#8217;s sounds better than it looks, but at the time I thought it was pretty cool.</p>
<p>The big day was approaching.  All was quiet on the western front.  I could only wait and hope all would go well.</p>
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		<title>Riley Jordan – It’s all rock and roll to me – Part 21</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[It's a rock life]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went away very unsure and it was only when I followed up that I get the lowdown on what was up.  EMI was interested, they wanted to come and see a gig in Melbourne.  I had a bite, but no band!!   AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The white lines on the Hume highway stretched out languidly behind me and in teasingly front, as I sped along towards Sydney.  The country towns of  Yea, Wangarratta and Gundagai were distant memories now as I slowed down to enter the city limits at Liverpool.   This time around I had stopped at Gundagai for a break and to look at the famous statue of the Dog On the Tuckerbox.   Been there done that.</p>
<p>I had my new demo on cassette tape in the glove box.  I had finished it with the &#8216;wannabe producer&#8217; only days ago and now I had appointments to see the A&amp;R guys at all the major labels.</p>
<p>The thing I hated the most about these long trips was not the endless hours of driving but the truck stop food.  How many ways can you abuse a potato?  I was up to about 50 so far.</p>
<p>Once again I found myself in beige offices with record company  dudes listening to my tape.  My heart was palpitating faster than one of those new fangled Roland drum machines.</p>
<p>This time around their ears started to twitch a little.  The EMI guy was cryptic but seemed interested.  He thought I had quite a bit of attitude &#8211; was that in a good sense or in a bad??  There was a signed picture of Chrissie Hynde from &#8216;The Pretenders&#8217; on his wall.  He was the one who pushed the song &#8216;Don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8217; to hit status in Australia.  EMI were also looking at signing a new band called Geisha, he told me.  All good.</p>
<p>I went away very unsure and it was only when I followed up that I get the lowdown on what was up.  EMI was interested, they wanted to come and see a gig in Melbourne.</p>
<p>I had a bite, but no band!!   AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!</p>
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		<title>Ode to Gaffa Tape &#8211; Musicians Black Gold</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Being In A Band]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[In all my years of doing gigs there is one bit of kit that is always in my bag.   Gaffa Tape.  It's the equivalent of a musicians med kit in a roll and it has more uses than the latest gizmo from Danoz Direct. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all my years of doing gigs there is one bit of kit that is always in my bag.   Gaffa Tape.  It&#8217;s the equivalent of a musicians med kit in a roll and it has more uses than the latest gizmo from Danoz Direct.  This long black luscious cloth tape,  fixes loose electrical connections, tapes down unruly leads, holds up blacks, stops lights from falling of the rigg, holds together failing road cases, makes a temporary guitar strap, blacks out the light from windows and it will slice and dice if you can get up enough force behind it.</p>
<p>So it is with great sentimentality that I have written an ode to my love of &#8216;the tape&#8217;:</p>
<p>(Sung to the tune of Christmas Tree Oh Christmas Tree).</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>Gaffa Tape Oh Gaffa Tape</strong></em></h3>
<h4 style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>By Riley Jordan</strong></em></h4>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>.<br />
</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Gaffa Tape Oh Gaffa Tape</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">The roadies all adore ya,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Gaffa Tape Oh Gaffa Tape,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">From Sydney to California,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Gaffa Tape Oh Gaffa Tape,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">You fixed all the amps,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Gaffa Tape Oh Gaffa Tape,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">You held up my pants,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Gaffa Tape Oh Gaffa Tape,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Audio Black Gold</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Gaffa Tape Oh Gaffa Tape</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">My Friend on the road.</p>
<p>The thing about Gaffa Tape is that it is eternal, Rock Stars will come and go, technology will rise and fall, but Gaffa Tape will never die.</p>
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		<title>Keeping a band together &#8211; the songwriting royalty conundrum.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Being In A Band]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[negotiating songwriting royalties]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely okay to share songwriting royalties equally, even if there is only one 'songwriter' in the band, but you have to ask yourself the question, what happens if the drummer leaves after three months?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen more bands come undone, arguing over song writing royalties, than I care to remember.  These bands are often barely playing gigs, let alone releasing records.    The problem starts when some muso&#8217;s think, that playing your parts in a song, is somehow akin to contributing to song writing.</p>
<p>If your in a band and your not sure if you&#8217;re entitled to songwriting royalties, here is the definitive question to ask yourself.</p>
<p><strong>If I took away all parts but mine, would what was left, be recognizable as a part of that particular song? </strong></p>
<p>So, if I take away all parts but the melody &#8211; great, however, if I take away all parts and just play the drum part, then can I pick the song?  If I can still recognize the song from the drum part, then that is a possible contribution, particularly if the song was written with the drummer jamming on that feel the time.  Think of &#8216;Queens&#8217; we &#8216;Will Rock you&#8217;.  Think of the bass part in &#8216;Blame It On the Boogie&#8217;.</p>
<p>A drum part, a bass part or a guitar part, are not a part of songwriting unless they contribute a definitive hook.  Once again, as I mentioned in an earlier post, mixing experienced players with inexperienced players can contribute to confusion here, as inexperienced players often overvalue their contribution.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, it&#8217;s absolutely okay to share songwriting royalties equally, even if there is only one &#8217;songwriter&#8217; in the band, but you have to ask yourself the question, what happens if the drummer leaves after three months?  Is he still entitled to royalties for songs that he didn&#8217;t actually write and do you now legally transfer those royalties to the new drummer?  If not, and the rest of the band continues on, would the old drummer still be getting royalties, even though he left the band and he is doing nothing to promote or sell the music?</p>
<p>One way around this problem, is for the songwriter/s, to be receiving the royalties legally on paper, and for them to give the band members their share after payment from the recording company, according to a  band agreement.  It keeps it all clean on an official level and any splits can be renegotiated as members come and go.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it is pretty normal for the songwriter to keep the royalties, that they are entitled to, particularly if the songs existed before the band got together and also if the songwriter writes them away from the band.  Both ways can work, but in my opinion, band members need to contribute considerably to the hooks and arrangement ideas to be entitled to receive songwriting royalties.</p>
<p>There are no fast and hard rules here, it&#8217;s just my opinion.  I haven&#8217;t even touched on actually negotiating songwriting splits between writers &#8211; that&#8217;s a whole other topic.  If you&#8217;re in the middle of negotiating all of this &#8211; good luck!</p>
<p>Note:  Songwriting royalties are different from mechanical royalties.  One relates to songwriting and the other to the artists performing those songs on record.   They are two different kinds of royalties.</p>
<p><strong>Always consult with a music lawyer before making any agreements between band members or signing any publishing or recording contracts.</strong></p>
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		<title>Riley Jordan &#8211; It&#8217;s all rock and roll to me &#8211; Part 20</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The industry 'currency' of the day was to know Molly Meldrum.  Molly Meldrum was one of Australia's most successful music producers and music show hosts.  He was a force to be reckoned within the industry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an exciting time for me and an exciting time to be in the music scene in Melbourne.  Melbourne had a reputation of being the rock capital of Australia and indeed it was.  If you wanted to make it in music, you had to make in Melbourne.  Funnily enough, most of  the major record labels all had head offices in Sydney although Mushroom music was a very successful Australian label based in Melbourne.  Everybody wanted &#8216;in&#8217; at Mushroom.</p>
<p>The inner-city was a hot pot of festering creativity.  Fitzroy, Brunswick, St Kilda, Collingwood, Prahran, were like beacons for young unemployed musicians leaving the suburbs looking for stardom.  If you could get a gig at the ESPY or &#8216;The Venue&#8217; you were definitely in a position to be seen.</p>
<p>The industry &#8216;currency&#8217; of the day was to know Molly Meldrum.  Molly Meldrum was one of Australia&#8217;s most successful music producers and music show hosts.  He was a force to be reckoned within the industry and was well liked and well respected.  It seems like if you &#8216;knew Molly&#8217; that you could fast track your way to the top.  If I had a dollar so every musician who told me that they&#8217; knew Molly&#8217;.</p>
<p>I started working with the &#8216;wannabe&#8217; producer.  This new batch of recordings was really coming up well, he did have his finger on the pulse and they had that current, new edge vibe.</p>
<p>While all this was going on, I was still teaching singing to get by.  I had one particular students, Cary Thondan, who was my age and we had so much in common.  After class, we would sit and talk about bands and what was going on in the industry.  We also used to talk about the supernatural lot, we both found it fascinating.</p>
<p>He told me about this new bands that he&#8217;d seen play live and he knew a couple of the guys.  He thought they would make it really big.  They&#8217;d  just chosen a name, Hunters and collectors.  Apparently they were hunting and collecting song ideas. Too easy.</p>
<p>I started to notice that Cary had missed a few lessons, so I rang his number to see what was happening.  His mum answered the phone and when I asked after Cary, she burst into tears and handed the phone to her sister.  Her sister told me that Cary had died of a number of weeks ago.   She told me that Cary had spoken of me often and they did not have my number to contact me.</p>
<p>It was quite a few months later, that I realized that the night before Cary died, I had had this weird dream about him not being able to put on his shoes and then he drove away, with some guy at the wheel of a lovely convertible car, saying that he was going somewhere really nice.</p>
<p>Hunters and Collectors did go on to become very successful.</p>
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